I got a comment today from a pretty reasonable Duck that I felt warranted a comment. I mean, he admitted to reading this blog, which must put him in danger in Oregon as if I know one thing from this blog, Ducks never forget. That’s why they are still commenting on articles I wrote about them.
Regardless, Rodger seems like a good dude and I have to respond since I think it pours everclear on their fire with us. I think most of us are just getting ready for summer since it’s been freakishly 80 degrees all weekend.
Here’s his take:
In 2008 Oregon State defeated number 1 USC without ever giving up the lead… everyone in the state of oregon knows that if that game had lasted 3 minutes longer USC would have won that game. Why? Because USC was a much better team and after 3 quarters of play they figured out how to score points again.
The reason I bring this up is because nobody in their right mind (who knows anything about football) would deny that if the Oregon USC game had lasted 30 seconds longer, Oregon would have more then likely gone on to win that game. Thats nothing against USC, that was just the way the game was going.
I love this blog but I have probably read “when you never held a lead”, some statement about Oregon getting crushed by Auburn, and beating a single digit ranked team in a bowl game (last two rose bowls USC won were against Penn state and Illinois, sorry but they were TERRIBLE) over a dozen times. Those comments aren’t arrogant, for the most part they are completely fallacious… if anything they make you sound intimidated.
Hey Rodger, I appreciate you reading this blog, so there’s no need to be uncivil in my response. I think you have the best take I’ve heard from a Duck fan so far, although naturally I think you are guilty of hyperbole (without intentionally going for it). “Anyone who knows anything about football”? Not sure there. After that game USC was ranked higher in the AP than Oregon. Could the Ducks have won with 3 more minutes? Sure. But they could have fumbled on the goal line like USC had just done (or did against Stanford). What if has no role in football as enticing as it can be.
To that same point, there would have been more than 3 minutes left if Chip Kelly knew how to manage a clock, something they don’t teach at that half-ass school Bellotti or whover dragged him out of. One of the benefits of this blog is I get to hear every Oregon argument, well, every argument from every team. One of the number one arguments Ducks say is that Chip Kelly could have managed the clock better. Only he didn’t. In my beautiful mind covered by my handsome face, if Oregon wanted more than 3 minutes to win the game, they could have managed the clock. Only, Oregon doesn’t have a 2 minute offense because they always run a 2 minute offense, only rarely do they need to call timeouts. It backfired hard. Anyone who knows anything about football knows that. Just kidding (but it’s true).
None of that has to do with the fact that the best way to have more than 3 minutes left would have been to nail a field goal at home. When you tie a football game and time runs out, they give you more time in something called “overtime”. Anyone who knows anything about football knows that (sorry you set me up with that).
Your last line about me (us) sounding intimidated was confusing. We won the game and never lost the lead. How can you be intimidated after you won? Remember that scene in that war movie where the army defeated the other army and when they looked at the dead bodies they all got super intimidated and ran for the hills? Me neither, that’s because no one is intimidated when they win.
By the same token, USC has had incredible runs over and over spanning many decades. When we lose, we assume it’s an outlier, a great team that is cutting into our role as Pac 12 alpha male and we just kind of enjoy the process and wait until it rights itself. Like this year, when after 3 years of getting slapped around by Oregon’s offense, we figured it out and righted the ship. Like we’ll do with Stanford next year. Like we did with Washington this year. We don’t get intimidated. We just wait until we right the ship.
The Oregon State example is a fine one, but they beat us something like 3 of 4 up there in a period of time. They had our number and maybe we were the “finer team”, but we lost and there for all the woulda-coulda-shouldas, we certainly aren’t hunting down OSU blogs and still talking about it during NBA season. Frankly, I was stoked to get this comment because I had been focused on spring training for the Dodgers and who the new owner is shaping up to be. It was fun to talk Oregon again, a nice reminder all of you are still thinking about it. Can’t wait for the game next year.
The Illinois and Penn State are terrible argument is a little played out. All Big Ten teams are terrible. That’s why since I got into USC in 2001, we never lost to one. Not Michigan (2x), Ohio State (2x), Illinois, Iowa or Penn State. If I recall, you lost to that same Ohio State team Barkley beat in his 2nd game as a true freshman on the road in the Rose Bowl.
A Duck dismissing a Rose Bowl win or opponent is simply laughable because at 10-15 in bowls, you are not the authority on quality bowl wins, having seen your first one since Joey Harrington’s crew got robbed of a shot to lose to Miami in the Rose Bowl in 2001. In the time between that Fiesta Bowl win and this Rose Bowl win, USC has won 2 National Titles, 3 Heismans, 4 Rose Bowls and 2 Orange Bowls (feel free to subtract one Heisman if you like, we’re claiming both AP titles since sanctions don’t mean much around here and I hope when Lyles comes down, you guys stay as upbeat as we did).
My point is, I had to really try to remember exactly how many Rose Bowls we won between your big game. I may have even gotten it wrong. Look, you can talk all the smack about our Rose Bowl wins you want, but first let’s check out your last decade of bowls:
38-8 loss to BYU? A loss to Wake Forest? Look, I congratulated the Ducks on their Rose Bowl win. Yes, it’s true you got it easy without having to play us a second time, but a win is a win and you get your name up on the wall at the stadium (along with our 28 or whatever mentions up there).
Everyone gives Oregon credit for their 3 years of beating us pretty darn well. It was 3 years out of the norm for the history of the two teams and I wouldn’t take anything away from it. Why are Duck fans so intent of commenting on our win this year? I think it’s because when USC is down for a few years, we know we’re going to get to eat at the big kids table. At 10-15 or whatever in bowls with no national titles or Heismans and 2 Rose Bowls ever, I think Duck fans, no matter how much they protest, know another one isn’t a guarantee.
Either way, appreciate your take and that you read the blog. Good luck this season to both the team and their bid against sanctions. Believe it or not, I am hoping you don’t get any. I also hope Phil Knight stops making you guys ugly jerseys and backing up Joe Paterno. That said, he’s the best owner in college football.